Monday, June 13, 2022

136: Metaverse with Daniel Liebeskind

Decentralizing the future can often lead to missing out on genuine human communication. Daniel Liebeskind, Cofounder and CEO of Topia, talks about how they’re working to avoid that pitfall while building the foundation of a better online experience. Whether its his lessons from Burning Man, keeping the human spirit alive in today’s technological frontier, or how Topia fits in the future, Daniel has something for listeners.

00:01:34 Introduction

00:02:15 Daniel and early programming experience

00:07:51 How coding felt like sorcery

00:09:35 Skill trees

00:16:10 Second Life

00:19:56 Enhancing versus replacing real life experiences

00:26:28 A decentralized Metaverse

00:29:54 Web 2 versus Web 3 

00:34:15 /r/place

00:44:16 Why boom cycles are important for tech

00:46:03 Topia for consumers

00:52:47 Topia as a company

00:55:50 Opportunities at Topia


01:03:50 Farewells

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Monday, June 6, 2022

135: Kubernetes with Aran Khanna

Not sure how to take the website or service you built on your machine and put it in the cloud? Kubernetes is by far the most popular system for deploying applications, but it is also pretty intimidating for new developers. In this episode, we are joined by Aran Khanna from Archera to explain how Kubernetes works and how you can go from n00b to expert in Kubernetes in less time than it takes to say "works on my machine"!

00:00:15 Introduction

00:01:03 Aran Khanna and his background

00:05:12 The Marauder’s Map that Facebook hated(Chrome Extension)

00:20:11 Why Google made Kubernetes

00:31:14 Horizontal and Vertical Auto-Scaling

00:35:54 Zencastr

00:39:53 How machines talk to each other

00:46:32 Sidecars

00:48:25 Resources to learn Kubernetes

00:52:59 Archera

00:59:31 Opportunities at Archera

01:01:08 Archera for End Users

01:02:30 Archera as a Company

01:05:46 Farewells




Monday, May 23, 2022

134: Ephemeral Environments with Benjie De Groot


How do you test changes to your web backend or database?  Many people have a "production" and one "development" database, but the development database can easily become broken by one engineer and thus unusable for the rest of the team.  Also, how would two engineers make changes in parallel to the development environment?  What if you could spin up hundreds or thousands of development databases as you need them? Today we have Benjie De Groot, Co-Founder and CEO of Shipyard to explain ephemeral environments and how virtual machines and containers have made massive improvements in devops!


00:00:15 Introduction

00:00:24 Introducing Benjie De Groot

00:01:26 Benjie’s Programming Background

00:06:34 How Shipyard started

00:09:17 Working in Startups vs. Tech Giants

00:19:28 The difference between Virtual Machines and Containers

00:26:17 Local Development Environment

00:40:27 What is a DevOps engineer and what does it entail?

00:45:42 Zencastr

00:50:12 Shipyard as a company

00:55:29 How Shipyard gets clients

01:06:48 Farewells


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Monday, May 9, 2022

133: Solving for the Marketplace Problem with Andrew Yates


As anyone who listens to the show regularly knows, I've always been fascinated by marketplaces.  How do we figure out what to charge for something, and how do we match buyers and sellers?  How does a company like Uber match drivers to riders so quickly?  Today we have Andrew Yates, Co-Founder & CEO at, to talk about marketplaces and how to optimize for this two-sided problem.


00:00:15 Introduction

00:00:27 Introducing Andrew Yates

00:00:50 Andrew’s Programming Background

00:04:19 Andrew at Promoted.AI

00:08:17 What is a Marketplace?

00:17:45 Marketplace Rankings

00:22:50 Short-term vs Long-term Experience

00:24:43 Machine Learning and the Marketplace

00:34:57 Measurements

00:37:09 Promoted.AI Integration

00:38:31 How Promoted.AI Measures Success

00:41:14 Auction Theory

00:46:08 Experience with YCombinator

00:50:34 Promoted.AI as a Company

00:55:47 Farewells



Monday, April 25, 2022

132: Funding Open-Source Projects


Hey everyone!  Today we have a guest co-host for a special duo episode!  We are joined by Adam from the CoRecursive Podcast to talk about how open-source projects can survive (and even thrive) financially.


00:00:15 Introduction

00:01:24 Gaming setups

00:12:25 News

  • 00:12:27 I was wrong, CRDTs are the future
  • 00:17:18 How we lost 54k Github stars
  • 00:21:10 DALL-E
  •  00:25:45 Inside the Longest Atlassian Outage of All Time

00:35:11: Sponsor

00:36:22 Book of the Show

  • 00:36:38 Indie Boardgame Designers Podcast
  • 00:37:24 The Laundry Files

00:40:35 Tool of the Show

  • 00:40:39 Zapier
  • 00:42:21 Earthly

00:46:46 Funding open-source projects

01:19:44 How to get funding for open-source projects

01:22:47 Farewells



Monday, April 11, 2022

131: Supporting your Favorite Creators with Brave with Jimmy Secretan


I've been a big fan of Brave Browser ever since attending a presentation from Brendan Eich back in 2017.  Brave was one of the first browsers to aggressively block the ability for websites to share information on your computer without your consent (i.e. third party cookies).  I'm so excited to sit down with Jimmy Secretan, VP of Ads and Premium Services of Brave, and talk about all things Brave, from the Browser to the other products to the way Brave takes privacy on the internet to a whole new level, while also empowering content creators and advertisers who depend on ads for income and to promote their businesses.

00:00:15 Introduction

00:00:44 Introducing Jimmy Secretan

00:01:10 How Brave started

00:09:33 Brave and internet advertising

00:21:13 Local machine learning

00:32:07 What is BAT (Brave Attention Tokens) 

00:42:59 Cross-platform data synchronization 

00:44:28 Chromium

00:50:22 Public and Private key encryption and authentication

00:54:27 Brave for Content Creators

00:59:03 Where is Brave now and what is its trajectory

01:05:40 Opportunities in Brave

01:13:10 Farewells

Monday, March 28, 2022

130: Ethical Hacking with Ted Harrington



"Hacking" is a word that evokes awe from the public, laughter from developers, and pure fear from technology leaders.  But what really is hacking?  What does trust really mean and how do we acquire and keep trust on the Internet?  It turns out that, while hacking is associated with computers, the methods behind it have been around since the dawn of time.  Today we have Ted Harrington from ISE to dive deep into hacking, all the way from the medieval times to today.


00:00:15 Intro

00:01:25 Introducing Ted Harrington

00:07:10 Ethical Hackers, Non-Ethical Hackers, and Productivity

00:11:58 Starting out in Ethical Hacking/Security

00:14:40 Imposter Syndrome

00:19:34 What is Hacking?

00:30:48 Is Hacking like magic?

00:38:14 Defense in Depth

00:42:04 Earning trust and The Departed movie (Spoiler alert)

00:59:52 DEF CON® Hacking Conference

01:02:46 Tips on how not to get hacked

01:10:08 culture and opportunities

01:24:13 Farewells